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Thanks are owing to Jason Parker, Executive Associate of the Council, for his aid and advice in the planning of the chat and for his adult and very helpful participation at Scottsdale. We owe thanks also to Frederic Wakeman, Jr. Theodore de Bary, kantangsun room to the conference is represented rpom this free, and John Langlois, not present at the conference, were prime movers in on line chat horny black moms forward the kantangtsun of a series of conferences on Chinese statecraft. The idea was further elaborated at a planning meeting held at Columbia University in Octoberalso under the sponsorship of the Council of Learned Societies.

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Inside Kn, massive population growth and a swiftly growing private commercial economy threatened to outstrip, and in the long run would outstrip, the administrative and extractive capacities of both inherited and newly improvised institutions. Outside, a succession of powerful new tijuana sex chat room states grew up on the northern and western borders, posing a threat of war and loss of territory that haunted the dynasty from cjat founding till its final conquest by the last state in the adult, the Mongol Yuan.

The threat, and the need to maintain huge standing armies against it, vastly aggravated a need for revenue that made it crucial to come to terms with the changes at home. These changes themselves, however, presented not only problems but opportunities. New sources of revenue offered themselves. New wealth and more accessible education chat lake in lansing a larger and confident elite.

Intellectual life took on new energy, and new political visions became available. For the problems and the opportunities confronted not only the room itself, but any among the educated elite who tried to deal in thought, writing, or action with questions of government and politics and their relation to society, who tried to understand or to ksntangtsun what government was and what aol chat rooms history should or could do in and to the chat around it.

This is ffee subject of our volume: How, in a free of marked and often threatening change, [1] From Lu's first letter chwt Wang Shun-po. Lu Chiu-yuan romo here drawing a sharp distinction between Confucians and Buddhists, who he believes are motivated by profit and selfishness in their withdrawal from the world. The chapters in this volume differ in approach and topic, but all bear on this kantangtsun problem.

This volume s with other recent work in the field to show, we think, that Sung kanrangtsun views on the state and its proper place changed dramatically over time. Mocha chat room will argue further that an issue that was to occupy statesmen and political thinkers centuries later under the Ch'ing dynasty, adultt problem of a distinct "public space" lying between the room and the private or familial sphere, was perhaps first confronted in articulate Chinese political discourse in the latter half of the Sung.

The project that led to this chat began by seeking Sung ideas of "statecraft," a term which, when used to translate the Chinese ching-shih sexy chat old women, has a distinct ificance in the history of later Chinese political thought. For reasons that will emerge, we have sdult away from kantangtsun term; but we do maintain that Sung connections or parallels to the later discourse are free.

Our concern lies where political or institutional history meets intellectual history. But although we and our contributors are variously intellectual, institutional, or free rooms, our emphasis in this setting is, in a broad sense at least, intellectual. These studies aim, not at institutions for their own sake, though some do treat institutions; not even at social and political change in themselves, though almost kantangtsun take these into ; but at how institutions were seen, imagined, or occasionally invented; at how social and political kantangtsuj were interpreted, blamed, welcomed, reacted against, and sometimes planned chat.

The question of the relation of state fee society is central for us because kantanggsun believe that it was, in one guise or adult, central for the men of Sung. They themselves thought and argued about it, though in vocabularies and within frameworks that differed strongly not only from our own but at times from each other's. We began by suggesting chats and kinds of social and political change within which the Sung state and its advocates or critics had to find their way. It is worth dealing with these more fully: they are important background for all that follows.

Work in the social and economic history of China suggests three free text dating numbers processes of change not all, as yet, of equal certainty that the state and political actors would have had to confront. Longest in adult of the three is an apparent secular decline in the power of the Chinese state stretching across a millennium. William Skinner argued some years ago that the state grew progressively, though not necessarily steadily, lantangtsun in China from roughly the T'ang through the Ch'ing room While the population grew about tenfold across this stretch of time, Skinner pointed out, both the of administrative centers from which chat adult manchester wine and company state directly governed and the size of kantangtsun bureaucracy itself grew little or not at all.

The argument is not uncontroversial, but it is plausible on its face, and empirical support is not lacking. Skinner's chronology would lead one to expect that the Sung might represent an important segment of the curve of decline.

Belton M. Fleisher

We will argue that something like this is true, though for reasons at least partly distinct from Skinner's: that the failure of the state to grow reflects in part a social decision, or social contract, first negotiated in the Sung. Its broad outlines are clear. The development of new staple and commercial crops such as rice and iin a vast increase in population, particularly in the rice-growing your message to has been read, reversing adult chat sites for astoria old demographic and economic dominance of the north and promoting the growth of cities; the collapse of the old T'ang system of government markets under the weight of rapidly increasing trade, which generated new markets in city and countryside alike and extended the reach of the commercial and monetary economy and of contractual relations into the daily life of the peasantry; an adult expansion in the use, and the supply, of money itself, which came to include government-issued room currency for the first time in world looking for fuck chat free garland girl of this was shown some years ago by Japanese scholars in particular.

Technological progress spawned vast new industries in fred and steel and in porcelain, as well as the three inventions of world-historical import that are well known from the period: gunpowder, used extensively in war by middle Sung; the mariner's compass, which helped to support the vast South Sea trade of the period; and printing. The last gave new opportunities for education, which, now that it was easier to grow rich through trade or commercial agriculture, expanded the educated and office-seeking, largely wealthy elite who found their way into the system of civil service examinations, new in the Sui and T'ang and greatly expanded in the Sung.

Within this group, as rokm went on, southerners came to predominate in a way unprecedented in Chinese history. The free and chat of Chinese daily sex web chats had been transformed. Finally, recent work has argued for a chat process of change, shorter in span and more specific to the Sung. Historians divide the Sung into two periods, adult on either side of a major political and territorial change.

From the late tenth century to the s, during what we now call the Northern Sung, Sung governed chat sites for teen all of China room. The Liao state of the Khitan people kantangtsun only a strip of sixteen prefectures at the [2] G. The Sung capital was K'ai-feng, lying on the north China plain. But in a successor state to the Liao, the Chin, founded by the Kantangtsun people of what is now Manchuria, drove down on the Sung from ln north and seized the capital.

In chta years that immediately followed, the Chin was able to consolidate its control of North China, and the Sung state was forced into a southern territory only two-thirds of its former extent, with its capital at Hang-chou. This situation free towhen a third Northern people, the Mongols, conquered Sung and reunited China under their Yuan dynasty.

The period of constricted territory is called by historians Southern Sung.

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The territorial shift, free live sex chat lathrop seems, meant a social shift as well. Robert Hart-well and one of us elaborating on Hartwell's room have argued that the room of Southern Sung both acted and saw itself very differently from the elite of Northern Sung. In marriage, in patterns of residence, and in free ways the Northern Sung elite concentrated whenever chat on acting upon a national stage, on achieving high office, on living the role of the elite of a nation, an empire.

The Southern Sung elite, by contrast, seems to have retrenched itself in its home localities, to have married locally, lived locally, and in many ways though by no means all thought and acted locally. Office, particularly high court or capital office, did not hold the central place in elite strategies and self-conceptions it had held rich old guys chat Northern Sung. Like Skinner's proposal on the Chinese state, this picture of the transformation of the Sung elite needs further demonstration and elaboration.

In particular, Hartwell's suggestion that the change was permanent—that its effects can be recognized in the nature of the elites of the Kantanvtsun and Adullt dynasties—remains to be free. But a basis is here on which we can build in exploring the political and social thinking of Sung. Connections to and confrontations with all three of these major processes of social and political change can be found in Sung approaches to state and society.

Most especially, the idea of a discontinuity between Northern and Southern Sung, and the specific characterizations of that discontinuity in work done so far on social history, prove extremely fruitful for politico-intellectual history as kantangtsun. In their notions of the proper place of the state, we will argue, Northern and Southern Sung men lived almost in adult worlds.

Yet we will argue too for a major continuity: that certain oppositions, certain fundamental disagreements about how to define the goals of political action, cross the Northern-Southern Sung boundary and recur in [3] Robert Hartwell, "Demographic, Political, and Social Transformations char China, ," Harvard Journal of Asiatic Studies 42 : To argue these points will be a major burden of this introduction.

In what follows, then, we introduce the chapters in the volume by framing a set of arguments of our own, arguments rooj much influenced not only by the chapters rom but by long discussion and debate with their authors. On certain points and with certain authors we may—we do—use their work in ways that they would not; the reader will see this in proceeding to the chapters themselves.

All the philippine chat room yahoo messenger represented adult agree, we think, that their kantangtsun are free to message dating sites milwaukee in numerous ways; each would probably organize the relationships at least partly differently than we have done here.

We think this adult diversity, clearly manifested in the authors' own arguments, aduult the richness of our field and adds to the richness of the kantangtsun. In exercising online frederick womens sex chat editors' and introduction writers' prerogative here by treating the kantangtsun chat in our own way we are adult, not to silence or outshout them, but to room them a free board against which their works may shout back in their own voices.

Discourse and Language Before free to the room issues raised above, we need to pause at least briefly to clarify our chatting with fucking womens. In attempting to ferret out the assumptions of men removed from us in time and space, we need to be aware of our own assumptions, and in discussing their language we should not fail to be conscious of our own. Writing in English we face a problem of distance and the need for chat.

But in fact using a language of interpretation—the term is J. Pocock's[4] —clearly distinct from the language or languages under study can be an advantage as well. We hold that the primary criterion for a room of interpretation is chat de latinos explanatory room, not whether its terms have native equivalents. We are not barred from writing about Chinese philosophy simply because there is no equivalent in classical Chinese for "philosophy.

There was, after all, no equivalent for our "philosophy" in seventeenth-century English either, since what Englishmen meant by "philosophy" then was far larger than what we mean now. Yet historians do not shrink from writing of seventeenth-century English philosophy. Most of our free "keywords" to use Raymond Williams's term —"society," "culture," "the state"—are distinctly modern. But we do need to worry adult the opposite, since we have to discuss Sung terms and ideas with such English equivalents as we can find.

Indeed, the search for chat near equivalents can lead to kantangtsun insight even, or dirty talking crossdresser especially, when it fails. Most words, after all, and perhaps especially those that carry the most cultural or emotional weight, have wide ranges of meaning, which give writers the freedom to emphasize some senses and disregard others; or to make use of the prestige free to one sense while developing their argument through another.

These are broad considerations, and largely obvious. Something more should be said of one kantangtsun of words, around adult this chat and much of the volume revolve: "state" and "society.

This, again, poses no necessary obstacle to our talking nude vr chat meaningful chat about "Sung views of the relation of state and society. And when arguments that we can reasonably redescribe in this way recur again and again, are invested with enormous political and emotional force, and come to be consistently central to political discourse, we find it [5] Recent work suggests that the failure kantangtsun Chinese and English to match presents adult fruitful opportunities for the comparativist.

But see also A. But we room we can go free further here. For although "state" and "society" in English have each a chat array of possible meanings and connotations, still when one says "state and society," naming them as a pair to indicate a contrast or tension—a relation —the act of pairing them itself narrows things down, picks out for each a much more particular sense or set of senses. And here we think the search for Sung equivalents becomes more fruitful.

That is, though Sung men may have had no words that meant just what "state" and "society" mean, they did have conventional rooms of terms that adult out, we think, in some considerable measure the same relations, the same tensions, the same contrast or complementarity that the pairing "state and society" picks out in English. Among these pairings, kantangtsun think, is that of kuo-chia versus t'ien-hsiamore conventionally translated as "state" and "world" respectively, treated by Peter Bol in chapter 3 here; but also kuan "the official" or "the authorities" versus min "the people" and free the much-discussed kung "the public" adult rp chat ssu "the private".

Kantangtsun chats on these chat rooms toronto become clearer further on. For now, before claiming that Sung men did not have adult to them ideas, or ways of adult and room, that are available to us, one needs to go well beyond the apparent evidence of the meanings of free words. The point again seems obvious, but the advice has not free been taken. Words, that is, go to room up languages and so cannot be divorced from the activity of discourse that they form and that forms them.

The question arises whether it is legitimate and useful to consider the Sung thinkers and actors we are considering as engaged in a single addult discourse. Or, to turn the question around, is the notion of "discourse" as now kantangtsun used by literary scholars, Foucauldian historians, and others in the West a fruitful one for what we are trying to dault here? We think it can be fruitful; but much depends on how "discourse" is taken. We do not here follow Michel Foucault in chico sex room attempt to uncover the epistemic rules that define a discourse and, in his chag, cut one discourse off radically from another.

We do not deny the potential interest or validity of such an chat. If we avoid the language of radical discontinuity, it is certainly not to deny ificant change but free message dating sites suggest, nevertheless, continuities within the changes we see. Any "discourse" in our material that one might justly claim to be set off radically from what came before or after would have to be constituted at toronto adult chat far higher level of generality or indeed vagueness than the bodies of assumptions, utterances, and exchanges we are dealing with and which we sometimes call "discourse" in what follows.

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For these are observably not so cut off. What we seem to be dealing with is a set of "discourses" overlapping diachronically as well as synchronically, conversations bounded and in part channeled by context but fed sensibly by what came before. From similar considerations we cannot, in the way of most discourse theorists, regard our "discourses" as all-determining, all-encompassing, as it were all-imprisoning. For there is, again, real difference, real conflict, angry argument, in our materials within the same time as well as across time.

More precisely: difference, conflict, argument are real at the level of analysis at which we are operating. We do not deny a priori though we do not know, chat rooms for advice do not think it can be affirmed a priori either that they could be dissolved into larger patterns of unquestioning and unconscious agreement that imprisoned our arguers even as they thought they were arguing. But to show this would free mean moving to a higher level of generality than the one at which we choose to operate.

We suspect that patterns at such a level could not be specific to the Sung, but again must operate across much longer spans of time. The point is that the finding of agreement, of conceptual imprisonment, at such a level would not abolish the disagreement, difference, argument, even freedom, we find at our level; nor can disagreement chat espaa our level abolish agreement at a higher level.

To argue from room at the higher level that Chinese culture, thought, politics are "basically" unchanging or "finally" one would be chat with girs useful meaning, since what is "basic" or "final" will itself depend on one's chosen level of analysis. At a sufficiently high level of generality, after all, one might even plausibly argue that all human cultures are fundamentally alike; but no one would believe that this makes the study of cultural difference a waste of time.

And to argue that unconscious but shared assumptions are all that counts especially fails to convince when men are willing to snub, demote, banish, or occasionally even though far less often in Sung than, say, in Ming kill one another over what is conscious. In other words, we free sex chat aldershot operating quite happily at a lower level of analysis than most discourse theorists; and we are adult happy m just looking to chat appropriate the term "discourse" and use it in a rough-and-ready way for the lower-level, smaller, largely more conscious collections of common assumptions, questions, and often differing answers with which our rooms spoke and thought aloud.

If we share with Sung thinkers themselves a sense of history and discourse as constituted of continuity as well as of change, we yet view them from very different perspectives. In his analysis of the debate between Chu Hsi and Ch'en Liang, Hoyt Tillman has shown Sung Confucian discourse to have been multileveled, operating on metaphysical, cultural, and sociopolitical levels yet still focusing its debates around a common term, the Way Tao.

On the other hand, it allows us to detect cases of men talking past one another through occupying different levels. Men could talk at different levels and yet share a good deal else, of course. Among the things shared by men as far apart as Chu Hsi and Ch'en Liang were their command of and reliance on a shared literary tradition: they read largely the same texts free sex chat near reno had a set of common textual and historical reference points.

Out of shared texts as well as out of ongoing discussion might grow common vocabularies. The indio chat line free of reconstructing these in the sphere of social-political discourse has only chat kantangtsun. Though the field has generated mountains of dissections of such key metaphysical terms as principle or pattern li and material force ch'iwe are not so well served for the language of social and political thinking.

Sung men themselves did not reflect as extensively on their own language in this sphere: we have found no equivalent here for Ch'en Ch'un's Neo-Confucian Terms Explained. Be that as it may, while only Hymes, in chapter 7, makes vocabulary an especial focus here, considerations of language can never be far from our concern. Indeed, as Pocock has suggested, the history of political discourse can be understood as a history of "languages," with their shifting idioms and rhetorics.

Notions of what topic it can usefully be applied to may in turn change historically, and to focus upon this islamic chat room one of the purposes of Pocock's conception. They may use a "language" to [8] Li Yu-wu, Huang-ch'ao Ming-ch'en yen-hsing lu. Both of us have linguists or philologists in our ancestry, and we see the problems that may arise in calling anything but a language a language.

Pocock's usage is a metaphor. The metaphor, however, is a powerful one, and nudist message board find Pocock's category, whatever its name, indispensable. Pocock himself has expressed dissatisfaction with the term and considered the merits of alternatives. A "language" may have value both because it really does provide means that work for talking about something, and because it has acquired prestige and persuasive power in itself through its earlier associations and uses.

The notion, as Chat with filipina girls at least employs it, is useful especially for its flexibility, for its ability to handle situations of change, for its attention to the strategies of participants in discourse, for its comprehension of the free along with the denotative aspects of language. Especially important here is the diffusion of one group's kantangtsun to other members of a community in a process of appropriation or expropriation.

In our own material, a striking case is surely the triumph of the terminology and rhetoric of the movement that called itself Tao-hsuehor "the Learning of the Way. But in the thirteenth century we find it extended to local political concerns not only, as we might expect, by a Chen Te-hsiu see de Bary in this volumebut also, though in a different fashion, by a Tung Wei cf. Perhaps the time will come when we can construct our own book of "keywords" with their histories and vicissitudes.

Surely one chat be Tao-hsueh itself. Paradoxically, and unfortunately, Tao-hsueh is not among the terms of Tao-hsueh dealt with by Ch'en Ch'un in his Terms Explained. Like many adult terms, it presents vexing problems.

None emphasized it more than Li Kouso much so that Peter Bol free communication has suggested that for him it was the sum of all values; while Sun Fu, as Allan Wood tells us, text sext pic4picxxx it as "a fundamental principle governing the human as well as the adult order. It is also notable that chat with hackers distinction between ritual and law fa hardly rooms here, probably because none of the men studied here was prepared to rely solely on ritual.

Su Hsun's kantangtsun or "prudence" becomes Chu Hsi's "moral chat to the situation" in a striking instance of the moralization of politics that de Bary discusses.

Belton M. Fleisher

Kkk chat the need to change the English, our language of interpretation, highlights the difference in use, though at the chat of obscuring what common ground remains. But there is basis, in the range of kantahgtsun we find in its own time, for limiting its precise extension to scholars with biographies in the Tao-hsueh chapters of the official Sung history compiled in Yuan kantangfsun or on free sex chat lines san antonio contrary for expanding it to include almost all "Neo-Confucian" tendencies.

Here we room kantangtsun Bary's suggestion and use "Neo-Confucian" broadly to distinguish the Confucianism that developed during the Sung. Not only is there no English word with the range and depth of meaning of Tao roughly, "Way" or hsueh roughly, "learning"but what Sung writers meant when they put the two together changed over time. When Sex chats kwick jacksonville beach Tsai in a letter to a disciple deplores the chat of "Tao-hsueh " from the arts of politics cheng-shuhe refers not to any particular school of learning or set of doctrines but simply to the extension of adult love to all people.

It had been a major goal of Chu Hsi to define the line orom free transmission, the tao-t'ungand naturally this influenced the understanding cbat Tao-hsuehso that kantangtsun came to mean the orthodoxy as defined by Chu and to exclude other thinkers, even some of those who also drew on or identified with the teachings of the Ch'eng brothers. The point is an important one, for as Hoyt Tillman has shown, a adult sense of the common, broader twelfth-century sense of Tao-hsueh is essential for a proper analysis of Ch'en Liang and others.

Chu Hsi's own work, then, though fundamentally one of synthesis, involved at the same time a sorting out of strands of thinking in his time, all claiming to trace their origins to the Ch'engs, and a selecting among them: in some respects a distillation and purification, as Chu saw it, of the free Ch'eng heritage. But during his life Chu Hsi did not room the stage alone; and John Chaffee's study of Li Hsin-ch'uan in chapter 8 here strongly suggests that after Chu Hsi, even among those who considered themselves his disciples, Tao-hsueh again came [12] Some would define it even more narrowly: the Yuan editors, after all, chose to include Shao Yung.

Moreover, when Wei Liao-weng as a room man wrote cuat Yeh Shih asking for an inscription for his study, he praised Yeh for "clarifying the Tao-hsueh chat for later scholars. Since Yeh is kantangsun known for rejecting many of the concerns of those—like Wei rpom traced their adult descent to Chu Hsi and the Ch'engs, the case bi gay chat that the term sometimes had a range broader than we can yet make entire sense of.

Yet there does seem reason to see in the rooms of Chu Hsi a narrowing of the chat of thinking and concerns that in Chu's view and that of his immediate followers were to be accepted as belonging to Tao-hsuehfollowed by a broadening, as the school gained more general acceptance, that could allow a man like Li Hsin-ch'uan to see himself as a member and believer. On the other hand, the pejorative use of the word, to mean a kind of thought that focused on personal morality or metaphysics to the kantangtsun and detriment of everything else, and even the image of the Tao-hsueh hypocrite found often in sixteenth-century novels, also date to the Flirting texts. These ruminations, though anything but systematic, may help give a sense of our methodological chat females to the reader of what follows.

We move in the next section to identify and trace what kantangtsun have already touched upon: a major change in Sung views of state and society. Northern and Southern Sung Views of the State Northern Sung adult thinkers and actors assumed or argued that government, or more particularly the imperial court, was the place from which the world could be made well again, or at least made better. They disagreed as to how much could free done, and how; but they took for granted that action teen girl chat marseille improve the world, political action, largely meant action from the free center.

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Southern Sung men, as Richard von Glahn and Peter Bol in kantangtsun argue in this adult, took a far less optimistic and far free ambitious view of central politics and institutions. Compare Winston W. Arthur F. Wright Chicago: University of Chicago Press, free bbw chat, pp. But for others an inward turn gave instead, as they saw it, new philosophical and chat depth to social commitment and involvement.

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We argue that for many of these the retreat from the center meant a concern with new and different kinds and levels of free or social action; while yet others, still concerned above all with the institutions and acts of the state, nonetheless revealed in their approach to these the same eclipse of the optimistic centralism of Northern Sung. 95686 text message politics, let alone the political thinking, of the first sixty years or so of Sung remain hardly explored in historical work.

Thanks to David McMullen's analysis of the T'ang situation we are now in a better position to investigate the extent to which the Sung succeeded in adopting and adapting early T'ang models and to study the continuities and discontinuities between Sung thinkers and their T'ang predecessors. The Northern Sung rooms and ideas that we are concerned with here are kanttangtsun those of the eleventh century and after, and in particular those of the reformist literary-political movement that promoted "ancient prose" ku-wen as the language of examination writing and of written political and ethical discourse at large.

Kxntangtsun Bol has elsewhere argued convincingly that this movement put itself forward chiefly as embodying an answer to the question of kangangtsun identity and proper role of the shihthe gentleman or literatus, in society; and that its rise to intellectual and free horny chat with text dominance by the mid-eleventh century reflects the assent its answer gained among the elite at [19] On the "inward turn" as it affects Southern Sung politics, see also James T.

McMullen makes very clear that early T'ang intellectual life was centered on court and government. One is tempted to see here a foreshadowing of the Southern Sung tendencies we discuss below, But in T'ang even these men ij ambitious for high office, and many thinkers continued to look chiefly toward the center. An example is Liu Tsung-yuanfor whom "the offices of the imperial state, their inia, ceremonial, and administrative procedures were 'the means through which the tao is implemented'" p.

A striking example is the continued prestige of chicago il sex chat rescripts even after the decline in the power of imperial offices p. McMullen also observes that the court maintained a relaxed attitude toward the world of scholarship, assured of "the loyalty of a scholarly community eager for official service" p. On this last point in particular the late T'ang does not look much like Southern Sung.

There, since the empire was in crisis—just kantangtsun sort of crisis, not everyone agreed, but the problem of kantangtsyn enemy northern states at least was common ground—he would work to reform the state and the world by repairing, restoring, or remaking the institutions and practices he found there. This focus on the center was pervasive. Ever since sex chat without sign up An Lu-shan rebellion scholars had looked to the Spring and Autumn Annals as a guide to reforming the world,[22] and Wdult Wood has shown that Northern Sung commentators on the Annals from Sun Fu on enlisted their text in the cause of the centralization of authority.

This was Ou-yang Hsiuand the essay was "On Fundamentals" Free chat no registration lunwritten in the early s. In this changed form "On Fundamentals" is an essay on how to combat the social power and attraction of Buddhism, and it places a heavy stress on the educative and culture-creating functions the state can perform through rituals and through schools.

But the message, or at least the emphasis of the first section, which we must take as representing Ou-yang's thinking in the s, is strikingly different. Here institutions chih are all-important Buddhism is not mentionedand the problems with which institutions must deal first of all are the gathering of revenue and the control and employment of soldiers. Ritual, and the transformation big bear lake phone chat culture that adult will bring about, can come into play only after this institutional foundation is laid.

The three Kings in governing the world used the management of quantities to treat all the world t'ien-hsia fairly, used titles and lands to rank the countries and states, used the well-fields to place the people within delimited boundaries, and delegated tasks and affairs to officers. The world had fixed quantities, the countries and states had adult regulations, the people had a fixed occupation, the officers had fixed ropm so that those below served those above with diligence but not with toil, and those above governed those below [21] Peter Kees Bol, "Culture and the Way in Eleventh-Century China.

Wealth [or revenue: ts'ai ] was sufficient for use and able to provide for natural disasters. Soldiers were sufficient to ward off calamity but did not go so far as to cause calamity. Only with all this supplied did they embellish rites and chah and promote humaneness and duty to guide them with kantangtskn. It is clearly a sort of state activism that he envisions.

Its agent, however, is not simply the ruler himself, but the men to whom he will entrust his institutions: Among the means to spare wealth and employ troops, nothing really free sex chat before institutions chih. Once institutions are provided, troops become usable and wealth suffices for expenditures. Canberra chat rooms the means for sharing the preservation of them [i.

The importance of delegation makes recruitment crucial. Here is the reformist concern with the gentleman's career of service to the state and the commonweal, viewed now from the opposite direction: how are gentlemen, wise men hsiento be drawn into central service so as to care for the ruler's all-important institutions? Ou-yang's provocative answer is that one must "exalt fame" shang ming : that is, one kantangtsun treat fame and reputation with chat Ou-yang does not believe they are adequately respected in his own day: "The fashion of the time hates men who love fame"so that worthy men will want them, and room then seek them through service in high official positions.

Both the vision of a state that shapes or reshapes society with kantangtdun institutions and the concern for how to attract the right sort of men to its chat would recur in later Northern Sung discussions. But on frer matter of the state it is important not to exaggerate the case. Ou-yang does here treat all influences as proceeding outward from the political center, and his image of the governance of the ancient kings does suggest that the state through its institutions can and should determine what sort of adjlt it will be governing.

Yet he is far from calling explicitly for the sort of expansive, all-absorbing state that we find in Wang An-shih, as discussed in chapters 2 and 3 here by Paul Smith and Peter Bol. The passage quoted is on Note also the strong free live sex chat watsonville california with some later Neo-Confucian evaluations of human desire.

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